I am talking about the scene with Cobb and Saito where they are at the table and Saito is old...I am confused as to what that means... any answers would be awesome...
Answer
The movie start with a "flash-forward", showing Cobb appears on the beach and then having conversation with old Saito. It's a storyline technique. Then it continues to the "recent time", into the main story.
This scene is shown again near the ending, before they wake up on the plane.
The scene in the beginning and in the near-end looks a bit different, but it is from the same sequence. Nolan cuts some frames and uses different frames for the beginning and the ending. For instance, from the sequence of "ABCDEFGHIJ", he shows "ABDFG" in the beginning, and he shows ABCEHIJ in the end. (^_^)v
ABCDEFGHIJ [Full scene]
AB..D..FG...... [Beginning]
ABC..E....HIJ [Ending]
I'd say Cobb's back in reality at the end. (^_^)
There are only 2 possibilities:
a. The whole movie is a dream, or
b. Cobb made it back to reality.
The whole thing would be silly if it's all a dream, if it's just a made up story about dreams within a dream is cheesy, all the details & concepts about the dream rules would mean nothing.
The clues & details leads to reality at the end. (^_^)
Clues:
At ending, the Top wobbles --> REALITY. In dreams Totem spins constantly & smooth, never wobbles. If we listen carefully after the black out [not after the credits], there's a SOUND of the Totem wobbling n fall.
Dileep Rao [Yusuf] interview: "You know what, I'll just say this: Use your ears not your eyes."
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The only people who know the weight & feel of that totem are Mal & Cobb, and since Mal is dead, Cobb is the only one left who knows the totemâs tactile details. So he could certainly use it as a measure of reality, it's not âruinedâ by him using it.
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Cobb doesnât wear a wedding ring in reality, but he wears a wedding ring in dreams [in dreams he's still together with Mal]. He doesn't wear a wedding ring at the end.
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He's not dreaming all along. After his mission to get Saito's secret, Cobb sitting in his hotel room alone, spinning the Top [Mal's Totem] and watching it intently, gun in hand. He's ready to blow his brains out if the top keeps spinning, in order to âwake himself upâ. The Top stops.
Cobb also spins the Top until it stops after waking up from Ariadne's dream [where Mal stabbed Ariadne].
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In the credits there are 2 pair of kids:
Claire Geare - Phillipa (3 years) & Magnus Nolan - James (20 months)
Taylor Geare - Phillipa (5 years) & Johnathan Geare - James (3 years)
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The kids are older in the ending, bigger body shape, different hair style, different clothes and shoes too [see pictures on my link and compare].
SHOES: In dreams they're wearing black shoes, at the end Philippa wears pink canvas shoes & James wears white sport shoes.
CLOTHES: In dreams Philippa wears 1 piece of short-sleeves pink dress. Philippa wears a sleeveless pink dress with an inner white shirt at the end.
In dreams James wears redish-color shirt with wider lines. James wears bluish-color shirt with thinner lines at the end.
And there are "painting tools & brushes" on the table at the end.
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Michael Caine has revealed the "true" ending of the film, stating that, "The spinning top drops at the end, that's when I come back on. If I'm there it's real, because I'm never in the dream. I'm the guy who invented the dream."
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One way to know you're in a dream is that you couldn't remember how you get there.
When Cobb wakes up in the plane, he's back to where he was, he's not waking up in some unknown place with no explanation of how he got there.
When Cobb wakes up, he looked like trying to regain his senses, his expression shows that he's thinking and wondering if he's realy awake. Saito wakes up in kinda awkward position and has a hard-to-explain expression on his face. Old soul that finally returns to youthly body. Then he honor his word, and make the call to drop the charges on Cobb. And as Cobb walks through the immigration check and drags his luggage out, his worried and relieved expression is really shown.
Cobb: Dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up that we realize something was actually strange.
***** ***** *****
Cobb really care whether it's real or not, because he cares for the children, not just for hisown sake to feel happy. It does matter for Cobb to go back to his kids in reality. These dialogues from Inception shows the importance of that.
Cobb (to Ariadne): I need to get home. That's all I care about right now.
Cobb (to Prof. Miles): Reality... Those kids... your grand children... They are waiting for their father to come back home. That's their reality. And this job, this LAST job, that's how I get there. I would not be standing here if I knew any other ways. I need an Architect who is as good as I was.
***** ***** *****
The movie start with a "flash-forward", showing Cobb appears on the beach and then having conversation with old Saito. It's a storyline technique. Then it continues to the "recent time", into the main story.
This scene is shown again near the ending, before they wake up on the plane.
The scene in the beginning and in the near-end looks a bit different, but it is from the same sequence. Nolan cuts some frames and uses different frames for the beginning and the ending. For instance, from the sequence of "ABCDEFGHIJ", he shows "ABDFG" in the beginning, and he shows ABCEHIJ in the end. (^_^)v
ABCDEFGHIJ [Full scene]
AB..D..FG...... [Beginning]
ABC..E....HIJ [Ending]
I'd say Cobb's back in reality at the end. (^_^)
There are only 2 possibilities:
a. The whole movie is a dream, or
b. Cobb made it back to reality.
The whole thing would be silly if it's all a dream, if it's just a made up story about dreams within a dream is cheesy, all the details & concepts about the dream rules would mean nothing.
The clues & details leads to reality at the end. (^_^)
Clues:
At ending, the Top wobbles --> REALITY. In dreams Totem spins constantly & smooth, never wobbles. If we listen carefully after the black out [not after the credits], there's a SOUND of the Totem wobbling n fall.
Dileep Rao [Yusuf] interview: "You know what, I'll just say this: Use your ears not your eyes."
*
The only people who know the weight & feel of that totem are Mal & Cobb, and since Mal is dead, Cobb is the only one left who knows the totemâs tactile details. So he could certainly use it as a measure of reality, it's not âruinedâ by him using it.
*
Cobb doesnât wear a wedding ring in reality, but he wears a wedding ring in dreams [in dreams he's still together with Mal]. He doesn't wear a wedding ring at the end.
*
He's not dreaming all along. After his mission to get Saito's secret, Cobb sitting in his hotel room alone, spinning the Top [Mal's Totem] and watching it intently, gun in hand. He's ready to blow his brains out if the top keeps spinning, in order to âwake himself upâ. The Top stops.
Cobb also spins the Top until it stops after waking up from Ariadne's dream [where Mal stabbed Ariadne].
*.
In the credits there are 2 pair of kids:
Claire Geare - Phillipa (3 years) & Magnus Nolan - James (20 months)
Taylor Geare - Phillipa (5 years) & Johnathan Geare - James (3 years)
*
The kids are older in the ending, bigger body shape, different hair style, different clothes and shoes too [see pictures on my link and compare].
SHOES: In dreams they're wearing black shoes, at the end Philippa wears pink canvas shoes & James wears white sport shoes.
CLOTHES: In dreams Philippa wears 1 piece of short-sleeves pink dress. Philippa wears a sleeveless pink dress with an inner white shirt at the end.
In dreams James wears redish-color shirt with wider lines. James wears bluish-color shirt with thinner lines at the end.
And there are "painting tools & brushes" on the table at the end.
*
Michael Caine has revealed the "true" ending of the film, stating that, "The spinning top drops at the end, that's when I come back on. If I'm there it's real, because I'm never in the dream. I'm the guy who invented the dream."
*
One way to know you're in a dream is that you couldn't remember how you get there.
When Cobb wakes up in the plane, he's back to where he was, he's not waking up in some unknown place with no explanation of how he got there.
When Cobb wakes up, he looked like trying to regain his senses, his expression shows that he's thinking and wondering if he's realy awake. Saito wakes up in kinda awkward position and has a hard-to-explain expression on his face. Old soul that finally returns to youthly body. Then he honor his word, and make the call to drop the charges on Cobb. And as Cobb walks through the immigration check and drags his luggage out, his worried and relieved expression is really shown.
Cobb: Dreams feel real while we're in them. It's only when we wake up that we realize something was actually strange.
***** ***** *****
Cobb really care whether it's real or not, because he cares for the children, not just for hisown sake to feel happy. It does matter for Cobb to go back to his kids in reality. These dialogues from Inception shows the importance of that.
Cobb (to Ariadne): I need to get home. That's all I care about right now.
Cobb (to Prof. Miles): Reality... Those kids... your grand children... They are waiting for their father to come back home. That's their reality. And this job, this LAST job, that's how I get there. I would not be standing here if I knew any other ways. I need an Architect who is as good as I was.
***** ***** *****
We are planning a trip from NJ to Myrtle beach Clark Griswald style with 7&10 yr olds any sites & suggestions?
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I was thinking the inner harbor, for 2 days Ocean City for 3 and the last week in Myrtle beach, but I am looking for some cost effective non-tourist trap Ideas including lodging expense it's a biggie thanks.
Answer
Broadway at the Beach has the new Pavilion Nostalgia Park, miniature golf, IMAX theater and MagiQuest
Ripley's Aquarium has a new Pirate section
Hard Rock Theme Park has a fun preview center
Brookgreen Gardens has pontoon boat rides through the swamps
Barefoot Landing has Alligator Adventure
Waccatee zoo is fun for all ages
Have dinner (if you go before 5 it is usually cheaper) at a Japanese restaurant where they cook at the table
Or have dinner at Medieval Times or the Dixie Stampede for a really good time.
Check around for coupon books and ask for deals. We are approaching the end of tourist season and retailers are a little more generous.
Broadway at the Beach has the new Pavilion Nostalgia Park, miniature golf, IMAX theater and MagiQuest
Ripley's Aquarium has a new Pirate section
Hard Rock Theme Park has a fun preview center
Brookgreen Gardens has pontoon boat rides through the swamps
Barefoot Landing has Alligator Adventure
Waccatee zoo is fun for all ages
Have dinner (if you go before 5 it is usually cheaper) at a Japanese restaurant where they cook at the table
Or have dinner at Medieval Times or the Dixie Stampede for a really good time.
Check around for coupon books and ask for deals. We are approaching the end of tourist season and retailers are a little more generous.
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