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I have looked for answers but seem to be shooting blank. Can I go to my local Rite-Aid, CVS, or Walgreen's buy Ethyl rubbing alcohol and mix it in some Hawaiian Punch and drink it. The way I figure it, if I could buy 90% ethyl alcohol, and add it to a gallon of Hawaiian Punch it would be about 20 proof. Would this be any more dangerous than buying a case of beer and drinking it and Is this relatively close to the correct strength?
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You need to be very careful about this, and I think the answer is almost certaily 'NO - don't do it if you intend to remain healthy !'
I live in the UK, and here drinkable ethanol is heavily taxed (all alcoholic drinks are in this category). Ethanol sold for other purposes is not taxed so heavily, so it is cheaper, but it is 'denatured'. This means that it is mixed with other chemicals which make it unpalatable and poisonous. Typically methanol (poisonous) is added, together with a purple dye, and some other chenical to give a bad taste and smell. The stuff is called methylated spirit, and is used as a cleaning solvent, or as a fuel for camping stoves, table-top food warmers, fondue heaters, etc
read this Wikki entry for more info -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatured_alcohol
I think it is very likely that the form of ethanol you have in mind is of a similar type, and you should not try to drink it.
If you can find a source of cheap, chemically pure ethanol (for example from a chemistry lab) you could dilute it 50:50 with water or juice to make a 100% proof drink, or greater dilution for something more drinkable. Wine is typically 12-14% alcohol by volume, and beer around 4%. I have heard of crazy students doing this. But even then you run certain risks -
a) this is almost certainly illegal - you could only get the stuff by stealing it
b) even chemically pure ethanol might still contain benzene as an impurity at a sufficiently high level for there to be a risk of cancer. If ethanol is sold as a chemical reagent it will not be controlled to the same extent as foodstuffs are, and might contain dangerous trace impurities; the risk is not worth taking.
Best to stick to beer or a nice bottle of plonk I say...
You need to be very careful about this, and I think the answer is almost certaily 'NO - don't do it if you intend to remain healthy !'
I live in the UK, and here drinkable ethanol is heavily taxed (all alcoholic drinks are in this category). Ethanol sold for other purposes is not taxed so heavily, so it is cheaper, but it is 'denatured'. This means that it is mixed with other chemicals which make it unpalatable and poisonous. Typically methanol (poisonous) is added, together with a purple dye, and some other chenical to give a bad taste and smell. The stuff is called methylated spirit, and is used as a cleaning solvent, or as a fuel for camping stoves, table-top food warmers, fondue heaters, etc
read this Wikki entry for more info -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denatured_alcohol
I think it is very likely that the form of ethanol you have in mind is of a similar type, and you should not try to drink it.
If you can find a source of cheap, chemically pure ethanol (for example from a chemistry lab) you could dilute it 50:50 with water or juice to make a 100% proof drink, or greater dilution for something more drinkable. Wine is typically 12-14% alcohol by volume, and beer around 4%. I have heard of crazy students doing this. But even then you run certain risks -
a) this is almost certainly illegal - you could only get the stuff by stealing it
b) even chemically pure ethanol might still contain benzene as an impurity at a sufficiently high level for there to be a risk of cancer. If ethanol is sold as a chemical reagent it will not be controlled to the same extent as foodstuffs are, and might contain dangerous trace impurities; the risk is not worth taking.
Best to stick to beer or a nice bottle of plonk I say...
I have my bronze DofE expedition tomorrow?
ZigZagZoom
Firstly, how many questions will the assessor ask?
Secondly, I have a pretty basic summer sleeping bag. Should I try and get another one or will this not matter too much?
Also, how do you pass? Is it easy or hard to do? Do I have to get all the questions right? And I have pasta you can make in a mug, you don't have to cook it, just boil water and mix them together. Is this allowed, or do I have to cook anything?
Thanks for your helpâ¥
Answer
You will get 12 questions you can answer and ten you can't so swot up on wild countryside stuff or just smile ever so nice.
Attitude is the big winner on the DoE. You have to be happy and helpful and not ever do any moaning.
The weather can't be trusted at this time of year but if you take a fleece blanket with you it will help the sleeping bag a bit You can get them from around £6.
Use it as a liner for the sleeping bag, not outside it.
They are very light but they are a bit bulky to pack.
A new sleeping bag will be around £25 cheapest from Millets on special offer for a decent thick one for autumn and winter.
For clothes don't wear cotton. Cotton is a killer in cold wet weather and in UK you get a lot of that don't you?
Cotton undies are OK but any cotton that gets wet in the pouring rain will make you freeze cos cotton is very cold when it's wet so no cotton T-shirts or you'll look like you don't know anything about being outdoors in wild wet and woolly mountains and moorland and stuff.
Wear wool in cold wet places. Wool stays warmer when it's wet. Get good thick woollen walking socks, not cotton ones.
Get cooking.
All the best explorers are expert camping cooks. They know hundreds of brilliant recipes like deep frozen worm sandwiches on a bleak windy mountain,haha.
Honest, if you cook something it's a lot better than instant stuff.
You get a lot more pasta if you buy a 50p bag of it and cook it than you get for 50p as instant trash and you get a proper meal not a trash meal.
A 50p bag of pasta makes five meals if you eat a lot, or about seven if you like smaller meals.
You can make pasta bakes or just add things to the cooked pasta and eat well more cheaply than buying instant stuff.
You can carry enough food for a few days easy but you'll only be out camping for one night for the Bronze so you want enough food for two days.
It all looks good for your assessment if you cook some proper food but you do it because it's good for you, not for the exam.
Pasta takes 12 minutes to cook from boiling. 15 if you like it softer.
Plenty of time to lay the table...OK, the rock or log or whatever ..... and wash your hands again.
Just add enough water to the pasta so it all gets used and none gets wasted or use the excess water to make a sauce. Don't waste anything while you're camping...or at home.
Mix grated cheese or cheese cut into little bits and stir it round when the pasta is cooked and the water is used up and you'll get cheesy pasta. You can add a can of stewed steak or anything you like to it but make it look nice and not a dish of slop and then you'll enjoy it more.
You'll get a smile from the instructor too when he or she sees that care about things and not just slop the food into a bowl.
Keep warm, keep smiling....it's very important...and keep everyone else happy.
Try anyway.
How you help others is part of the deal. So is being happy.
If it rains, dance. Sing to the rain and laugh!
Be a star. Help the others to stay happy. You can all sing together.
Don't moan and want to go home.
The guys know what to look for so perfect wonderful little you is all geared for it aren't you and you'll be totally Brill!!
This is about cooking outdoors. You don't need even a tenth of it but you'll get to know that cooking Sunday lunch on a camping stove or two isn't really so hard, so ordinary meat and three veg which you can cook in the same pot if you get it right, or a pasta bake or a paella or making fresh bread on a mountain is OK.
Bread is easy, especially flatbreads that cook in two or three minutes on a hot plate over a stove. Arabs cook them in the desert. Indian people cook them .
You can make pancakes and omelettes, anything.
Americans spell omelette as omelet. The answer in the link is for an American going to a rave. My answer is the long one.
Anything you cook on a camping stove is the same if it's at a rave or in a ravine.
Camp stoves don't know what's all round them so they cook things just the same anywhere.
So have fun cooking something. It's better like that and you can share things if you like and have a talk round the stove while the food is cooking. It's real camping then when you can cook outdoors.
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AnpVOlTnYVMgLrlgzGCoix0hBgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20100930034146AAONa0N&show=7#profile-info-aVonjEIFaa . . . . .
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Micael...DoE is the Duke of Edinburgh's Award Scheme in UK for young people involving community help, self improvement, and an expedition. There are 3 levels.
You will get 12 questions you can answer and ten you can't so swot up on wild countryside stuff or just smile ever so nice.
Attitude is the big winner on the DoE. You have to be happy and helpful and not ever do any moaning.
The weather can't be trusted at this time of year but if you take a fleece blanket with you it will help the sleeping bag a bit You can get them from around £6.
Use it as a liner for the sleeping bag, not outside it.
They are very light but they are a bit bulky to pack.
A new sleeping bag will be around £25 cheapest from Millets on special offer for a decent thick one for autumn and winter.
For clothes don't wear cotton. Cotton is a killer in cold wet weather and in UK you get a lot of that don't you?
Cotton undies are OK but any cotton that gets wet in the pouring rain will make you freeze cos cotton is very cold when it's wet so no cotton T-shirts or you'll look like you don't know anything about being outdoors in wild wet and woolly mountains and moorland and stuff.
Wear wool in cold wet places. Wool stays warmer when it's wet. Get good thick woollen walking socks, not cotton ones.
Get cooking.
All the best explorers are expert camping cooks. They know hundreds of brilliant recipes like deep frozen worm sandwiches on a bleak windy mountain,haha.
Honest, if you cook something it's a lot better than instant stuff.
You get a lot more pasta if you buy a 50p bag of it and cook it than you get for 50p as instant trash and you get a proper meal not a trash meal.
A 50p bag of pasta makes five meals if you eat a lot, or about seven if you like smaller meals.
You can make pasta bakes or just add things to the cooked pasta and eat well more cheaply than buying instant stuff.
You can carry enough food for a few days easy but you'll only be out camping for one night for the Bronze so you want enough food for two days.
It all looks good for your assessment if you cook some proper food but you do it because it's good for you, not for the exam.
Pasta takes 12 minutes to cook from boiling. 15 if you like it softer.
Plenty of time to lay the table...OK, the rock or log or whatever ..... and wash your hands again.
Just add enough water to the pasta so it all gets used and none gets wasted or use the excess water to make a sauce. Don't waste anything while you're camping...or at home.
Mix grated cheese or cheese cut into little bits and stir it round when the pasta is cooked and the water is used up and you'll get cheesy pasta. You can add a can of stewed steak or anything you like to it but make it look nice and not a dish of slop and then you'll enjoy it more.
You'll get a smile from the instructor too when he or she sees that care about things and not just slop the food into a bowl.
Keep warm, keep smiling....it's very important...and keep everyone else happy.
Try anyway.
How you help others is part of the deal. So is being happy.
If it rains, dance. Sing to the rain and laugh!
Be a star. Help the others to stay happy. You can all sing together.
Don't moan and want to go home.
The guys know what to look for so perfect wonderful little you is all geared for it aren't you and you'll be totally Brill!!
This is about cooking outdoors. You don't need even a tenth of it but you'll get to know that cooking Sunday lunch on a camping stove or two isn't really so hard, so ordinary meat and three veg which you can cook in the same pot if you get it right, or a pasta bake or a paella or making fresh bread on a mountain is OK.
Bread is easy, especially flatbreads that cook in two or three minutes on a hot plate over a stove. Arabs cook them in the desert. Indian people cook them .
You can make pancakes and omelettes, anything.
Americans spell omelette as omelet. The answer in the link is for an American going to a rave. My answer is the long one.
Anything you cook on a camping stove is the same if it's at a rave or in a ravine.
Camp stoves don't know what's all round them so they cook things just the same anywhere.
So have fun cooking something. It's better like that and you can share things if you like and have a talk round the stove while the food is cooking. It's real camping then when you can cook outdoors.
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AnpVOlTnYVMgLrlgzGCoix0hBgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20100930034146AAONa0N&show=7#profile-info-aVonjEIFaa . . . . .
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Micael...DoE is the Duke of Edinburgh's Award Scheme in UK for young people involving community help, self improvement, and an expedition. There are 3 levels.
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